Once you became “Judith Butler,” we began to hear more about Jews and Jewish texts. People came to hear you speak about gender and suddenly they were faced with Gaza, divine violence. It almost felt like you had some closure on the previous matter. Is there a connection, a continuum, or is this a new phase?
Let’s go back further. I’m sure I’ve told you that I began to be interested in philosophy when I was 14, and I was in trouble in the synagogue. The rabbi said, “You are too talkative in class. You talk back, you are not well behaved. You have to come and have a tutorial with me.” I said “OK, great!” I was thrilled.
He said: “What do you want to study in the tutorial? This is your punishment. Now you have to study something seriously.” I think he thought of me as unserious. I explained that I wanted to read existential theology focusing on Martin Buber. (I’ve never left Martin Buber.) I wanted look at the question of whether German idealism could be linked with National Socialism. Was the tradition of Kant and Hegel responsible in some way for the origins of National Socialism? My third question was why Spinoza was excommunicated from the synagogue. I wanted to know what happened and whether the synagogue was justified.
Now I must go Jewish: what was your parents’ relation to Judaism?
My parents were practicing Jews. My mother grew up in an orthodox synagogue and after my grandfather died, she went to a conservative synagogue and a little later ended up in a reform synagogue. My father was in reform synagogues from the beginning.
My mother’s uncles and aunts were all killed in Hungary [during the Holocaust]. My grandmother lost all of her relatives, except for the two nephews who came with them in the car when my grandmother went back in 1938 to see who she could rescue. It was important for me. I went to Hebrew school. But I also went after school to special classes on Jewish ethics because I was interested in the debates. So I didn’t do just the minimum. Through high school, I suppose, I continued Jewish studies alongside my public school education.
And you showed me the photos of the bar mitzvah of your son as a good proud Jewish Mother…
So it’s been there from the start, it’s not as if I arrived at some place that I haven’t always been in. I grew very skeptical of certain kind of Jewish separatism in my youth. I mean, I saw the Jewish community was always with each other; they didn’t trust anybody outside. You’d bring someone home and the first question was “Are they Jewish, are they not Jewish?” Then I entered into a lesbian community in college, late college, graduate school, and the first thing they asked was, “Are you a feminist, are you not a feminist?” “Are you a lesbian, are you not a lesbian?” and I thought “Enough with the separatism!”
It felt like the same kind of policing of the community. You only trust those who are absolutely like yourself, those who have signed a pledge of allegiance to this particular identity. Is that person really Jewish, maybe they’re not so Jewish. I don’t know if they’re really Jewish. Maybe they’re self-hating. Is that person lesbian? I think maybe they had a relationship with a man. What does that say about how true their identity was? I thought I can’t live in a world in which identity is being policed in this way.







Online Debate Tips
Wednesday, June 17th, 2009Online discussion boards, forums, and even comment areas on blogs are a great way to debate current issues. You can share your views and discuss the issues, raise or answer new questions, and see a variety of other viewpoints, all without the pressure of face-to-face confrontation. But a discussion or a debate is more beneficial to everyone involved when the participants have a clear understanding of how to get their points across!
Here are a few pointers that may help make your online debating experience a bit more enjoyable for both you and your reading audience.
1. Proofread your argument.
Check for grammar, spelling, and punctuation mistakes. Nothing makes an argument weaker than a bunch of sentence fragments, misspelled words, and grammatical errors. (*”Argument” in the sense of like a courtroom argument… your debate’s main points.) Use the Spell Check feature if you are at all unsure of the spelling of a word. Google’s search box also allows you to look up the definitions of words by using this format:
define:democracy
Note that there are no spaces in that search query.
When you’re trying to have a serious discussion about something important, especially online where replies aren’t necessarily immediate, go the extra inch and use real English. Shortened words, acronyms, lack of punctuation or capital letters, excessive use of all caps, excessive use of italics or bold text, text messaging shortcuts, swearing, and slang can all be very annoying to read and, quite frankly, they make you seem less intelligent. It’s not fair, but it’s true.
Reread your writing before you click the Publish / Comment button. Review for errors or possible holes in your argument. Find additional sources to cite if one of your points seems a little weak. While you review what you have written, imagine that someone else is saying this to you… would it feel insulting or offensive to you then?
2. Add Research and References to the Debate.
Do you have any proof or evidence that what you’re writing is true? Back up your argument by citing reputable sources. Be sure to include a link to the source so others can view the entire text (in context) that you’re referencing. This will not only help to make your debate look more professional, but it will also allow others to have quick links to the background information of your debate.
Cited / linked sources give credence to whatever point you’re trying to make, and help to educate others not only about the topic at hand, but also by showing whether you have done your homework and whether you know where to find expertise and reputable sources of information. These are important traits in any good journalist or competitive debate participant.
If you can’t support your argument, you don’t have an argument and you’ve already lost the debate. If you’re going to cite studies or statistics or anything of that nature, ideally you should have more than one example from (relatively) unbiased reputable sources because studies and statistics are only as good as the methodology used and speak to the veracity of the source and who funded the study.
By a similar token, if someone points out an unsupported claim in your writing and you can’t back it up, don’t just ignore it or pretend they didn’t call you out. Chances are that other people noticed, too, and this will affect your credibility. Either find some cited support for your claim, or publicly concede the point. Using fake or made-up data destroys your credibility and gives your opponent ammunition and an easy target in later rounds of debate.
3. Passion is Good, Emotion is Bad: Beware of Making Emotional Arguments.
When you are debating try to keep emotion out of your arguments. Losing your head during a crucial moment in an argument can lose the debate for you and weaken your side of any future debates. However tempting it may be, always refrain from using personal or general insults. It is not only rude, but is generally against the rules, user agreement, or terms of service of the forum, and it can get your account terminated.
At Newsvine, you must comply with the Code of Honor and the Newsvine User Agreement, because you agreed to do so when registering for your account.
If your idea of an argument is to sling zingers at your opponent, you’ve already lost the debate. I’m not saying you can’t slide a few in every now and then, but there should be more substance than zingers.
For more information about different styles of debate, check out this Wikipedia article on Debate.
4. Remember to Have Fun.
When talking to people you don’t know personally or well, be on the safe side and keep it serious, or else find a way to make it very obvious that you’re just kidding around (use smilies or say outright that you’re just kidding). Newsvine and other discussion forums are here online to harbor a fun, free, and interesting peer-to-peer discussion atmosphere for anyone who wishes to participate and follow the rules. It is up to the users to help maintain this atmosphere. As a member, you are responsible for the success of the site, so try to create a fun atmosphere that you enjoy being a part of.
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